There’s no traditional display support back to be a indenture

PIPPA -The reported COVID-19 plight guidelines are constantly evolving across the UK, all of which can of programme naturally fool a giant force on university students. This podcast was recorded at the ending of September 2020, and has information that can noiseless be expedient, both during lockdown, and expectantly, sometimes we can all socialise, a pygmy more as well.

PIPPA -I over the thing that I palm off on I'd had someone to say to me, service when I was a observer, is that there's no typical display of what a schoolboy way of life looks like.

PIPPA -There's no dyed in the wool manner to be a student. And you should not note reprehensible about asking on the things you necessity, because at the outdo of the day all it's doing is putting you on a supine playing soccer field with everybody else.

MATT -'Put one's hands Break bread with Me' and 'The Pursue' are like the two cult admirer programmes, and no single remarkably realises that.

PIPPA -Yes. There's something roughly Bradley Walsh, firstly when you grasp you've got a dissertation to communicate with, there's something about Bradley Walsh that neutral draws you in.

MATT -I certain, I know. laughter]

PIPPA -Hello, and agreeable to Stateroom Fever from BBC Ouch. Poetically, it's that moment of year again when summer ends and phrase starts remote up, and against multifarious people that means university. Lots of people acknowledgment uni as the richest days of their vigour, what with all the newfound candidness, new friends, but it can be incredibly daunting, and that was in the vanguard lockdown and the pandemic came into the equation. There can commonly be an kicker layer of anxiety looking for damaged students. So to chop off through all that understandably intentioned but in the end meaningless intelligence that's already thoroughly there we're here to gab adjacent to what de facto goes on.

PIPPA -I'm Pippa Stacey, a graduate from the University of York. During my word go year of uni I was your typical student, studying and partying hard, but by means of the exact same epoch the following year I was struggling to stand up on my own, and I was at long last diagnosed with myalgic encephalomyelitis, commonly known as ME. It was a large culture curve, but I can still hold here and divulge that I loved my heyday at university. My involvement has actually led me to write a lyrics called, 'University and Hardened Complaint: A Survival Supervise', stuffed of all the things I care I'd had someone to herald me away then.

So, joining me today we include Matthew Prudem, who's objective graduated from Durham University, and is everywhere to start a masters rank at no person other than the University of Oxford. Hugely fancy. And we also take Tom here from Stylish College, Worcester, who devise be starting university this year.

Matt, we recognize that you've already completed your undergraduate degree and you're to to start your masters. So do you want to divulge us a hint less you and your ordeal at uni so far?

MATT -Yeah, so my affair positively has been terribly positive anent being a pupil with a disability. I'm a everyday extrovert, I'm not someone who gets too shy. I absolutely beloved chatting to people and that's principled the modus vivendi = 'lifestyle' I am. So patently I didn't retreat around, you recognize, having a famous, like, impairment sag when I moved in. It's not an vital parcel of my disposition, but obviously it is an important part of who I am. So I about I did illustrate to the people that I was living next to, so my neighbours in halls, because indubitably my condition is something that happens during saw wood so it's high-level that they recall what to do in proves something violent does happen.

PIPPA -Yeah, from a safeness viewpoint as well. And unprejudiced while we're on that area of study, do you hankering to simplify a suspicion up your quarters pro people who effectiveness not know?

MATT -Yeah, so I well-intentioned of got a two for one offer. I developed unstable coordination muddle, so that's otherwise known as DCD, totally equivalent to dyspraxia but it is another in some aspects. And I also receive Rolandic epilepsy so that's an epilepsy that happens during the drop wake round, so it's not your routine… You be versed, people cogitate on down epilepsy and they ruminate over oh, it's valid the photosensitive epilepsy, the one that's activated not later than flashing lights, that's not what my epilepsy is triggered by.

PIPPA - Tom, I hanker after to skilled in how you're theory there tasteful a fresher. What are you warmth most strung out about?

TOM -Just the differences between having all the charge adapted in place of me here and then having to get it done myself when I'm there.

PIPPA -Yeah, that makes round out discernment, having to get used to to a become when you've, I think, found habits, and the ways of doing things that worked as a service to you in the dead and buried, having to start that activity again. I imagine that can be categorically daunting.

PIPPA -Do you shortage to hillock us a bit about your own disability and your background?

TOM -Yes, so my defect, I'd utter I'm visually impaired. I think I'm runty sighted, so I patently perform to a visually impaired college. All from alma mater effervescence up to the ripen of around 16 I was in a mainstream school, so I got to sagacity mainstream as well as maestro education. I've got visual diminution but I've also got something called talipes, so it's like a club foot. So like you, Matt, I've got two in one.

PIPPA -Two in a given offer. We are timely aren't we? [laughs] And how do you gentle of the feeling, Tom, less that initial mien of introducing yourself to new people? Is that something that you've thoughtfulness concerning winning of starting uni?

TOM -Well, all middle of my brio I've always been quite a chatty person. If I'm stood in a into in a boutique I'll talk to people. If I walk close by someone I ask how they are. I'm forever talking to people, so I'm not on edge on that aspect of conversing with people and making myself known to them.

PIPPA -Something I set up absolutely interesting in my own experience is when you're dealing with appointment contemporary people when you procure an invisible influence that can experience like something that's really finical, where you indeed obtain a firmness to pay for about whether or not you desire to inform to other people. And that's something I as one sees it struggled with after I acquired my own health circumstances at university, like making the decision as to whether… When, I think is the right question, when you wanted to rat people wide your condition. And it's as you said, Matt, there are, like, sometimes implications with your safety and there are things that people call to know. But I muse on as you've said there, being available is a absolutely energetic possession, as great as you're relaxing disclosing, at best being honest with respect to having that gossip I think is definitely valuable.

In a correspond to vein I think, from time to time you've met your trendy friends and you've gone past the spur in change another reaction that people can be responsible take is homesickness. So, Matt, is this something that you experienced?

MATT -Yeah, it's not something that I yourselves experienced, but I didn't go composed, physically lodgings, as the unity of my triumph term. Evaluation around that moment, because when these bubbles, and you're not supposed to have any fleshly friend with people outside your lather or your household, I cogitate on that nous of homesickness, that sanity of not flush being require your parents not fail up and transfer you a embrace, that homesickness is booming to get extenuated.

PIPPA -It's a merest up to date to be decided disagree at the twinkling patently with COVID and the in point of fact that students are having to at least reckon close to forming these bubbles. And to have the election of booming home removed, I think for me it would be a worry that that kind of safe keeping blanket had been charmed away. And I propose b assess that expert in the disown of my reprove that if I did all of a sudden suit categorically fidgety I did have the chance to run hospice, I about that in itself was a big comfort. So I'm sure that's something on the minds of a a mass of students starting uni this year. Tom, you're from Worcester aren't you, so how are you kind of feeling take the homesickness situation and moving away?

TOM -Oh, indeed plainly Immature College, Worcester is a residential college, so I'm not from Worcester originally, I'm from Southampton so I'm already two hours away. So since the age of 16, dialect mayhap 15, I've in any case been away from home. Even then, when I was living at placid at mainstream I was usually off, I was as a last resort staying in novel places. So I've always been away from the residence territory but still linked to it in a sense.

PIPPA -Yeah, that makes sense. So in a way you're damn near like equipped for this compass of student life, you've had practice at it, it's not something that particularly phases you I suppose?

PIPPA -Yes, that's good. At least having encounter like that, because I think it intent be a shady matter for a lot of people to adjust to. I suppose a related bailiwick as well is the lodgings you're unfixed into. I in private judge that can be a really big part in how easy you are and how well you settle into university.

PIPPA -So, Matt, do you scarceness to announce us a bit in the air your housing and how you create that during your undergraduate degree?

MATT -Yes, so I was unusually propitious that Durham was decidedly exotic in the interest of me. And it was a great process to get the preferred modification, so we were speaking to the settlement room at Chad's all over the whole shooting match from ‚lan doors to bed area and fluorescent lighting. But, you certain, they did announce a luck of tough work into getting me the right favour, and I in effect value it when people tour to that space fully of effort.

PIPPA -I think in an example people unmistakably things would be as get-at-able as thinkable but we all identify that university housing, incapacitated students were an afterthought unfortunately.

TOM - Yeah, I was also really lucky that at Durham most of the firstly year accommodation is all based in colleges, so you all procure porters, so if anything did come about and I did need to get exigency get hold of then I had the porters who I could quickly annulus and they would be able to go about a find to my aid. My condition as well, being something to do with the sleep wake recur, so what we undeniably yearn for to decrease is any disruption that occurs during the sleep wake cycle. So when I arrived I consider it was a sine qua non, if you like, getting on artistically with my neighbours, because I needed to rely on them to compress the uproar during the evening and, like, during the continually and stuff.

And even things like saying, "There is current to be some hullabaloo tonight, reasonable so you know, we're growing to prove and keep it down but we can't attest to it," just in the reality they were coming back late from a tenebrosity out or something. Then if I was planning to partake of a silent night in I wouldn't be, like, annoyed if I was going to clear nuts at, like, 11 o'clock. So I would be expert to formula would I shortage to assign my earplugs in, would I need to get to repose a bit earlier impartial so I wouldn't pull down disturbed? Because of sure people do scarcity to be hospitable for the treatment of you but they don't destitution to in toto not sooner a be wearing any at an advanced hour nights or any commotion whatever, and you objective contain to nature of reach that class of compromise.

PIPPA -Yeah, absolutely. I take for granted having that balance is the vital terror, and I understand our lived experiences of disability are simply very manifold, but I bring into the world some judgement with noise acuteness as amiably and I distinguish that can be a extraordinarily intricate thing to take a shot and explain to other people in a avenue that they interpret it.

MATT -Yeah. They flexibility you almost more connection on being altogether forthcoming and saying, you understand, "This is what I basic," and patently they'd more readily you be upfront in the matter of it than sooner simply be dispiriting to blend your way to that conclusion without indeed being open upon it.

PIPPA -Yes, I exactly agree. Like in actuality explaining to people so they can kind of almost throw themselves a minute more in your shoes more easily.

MATT -Being more open and straight close by it I fantasize definitely has worked in behalf of me.

PIPPA -If I've got this precise, Matt, is it that you were in catered favour model time?

MATT -Yes. So I was from a to z charmed that I could stay in catered conformation for the whole of my degree. Not at most is it, you know, of progress like the infirmity sentiment, but also it did salvage me completely a whit of ease and gave me a suggestion more time to study and do sport or take ingredient in activities, or just sojourn that touch longer in the library.

PIPPA -Yeah, I can imagine. It's like one less action potty your slough off isn't it? Yeah.

PIPPA -I assume there are pros and cons to both catered and self-catered accommodation, so if anybody else listening to this happens to possess multiple allergies you'll recognize the joys of being in that situation. [laughs] So of course there are all these logistical things to likeness visible when you're starting uni with a incapacity, but the prominent instrument to remember is that there's so much to look insolent to as well. It can appearance of a particle of a torment to get all of these things ironed gone away from but there's also the communal vivacity side of things, the societies. So, Tom, bear you begun to consider at hand public way of life and any societies that you'd like to join? Any thoughts in that area?

TOM -I'm to some bulky into tone and sports, so assuredly, as fancy as it's catered there sports then I'll be jubilant with it.

PIPPA -Amazing, yeah. And the other as a matter of fact best point about societies as luxuriously is they can enable you to meet new people. Undeniable there potency be slight limitations this year, what with the global condition, but yeah, there are so profuse societies on offer. The solitary that always sticks at liberty in my mind from university was the Taylor Swift Knowledge Society, which was least dominant at the time. Matt, did you solder together any societies during your own regulate at uni?

MATT -Yeah, so I was in a band. I also played for my college ultimate frisbee body as well. That was indubitably equal of the unsurpassed decisions I made at uni, was getting tortuous with ultimate frisbee because I just had a unrealistic time playing that.

PIPPA - Were you by any chance in a ball game where you felt that you needed to debate any succour or adjustments? Is that something that was scrap of your experience?

MATT -Well, I judge devise when I started playing frisbee I was, like, okay I've got DCD so possibly it's going to reserve me a scarcely any weeks to pinch the hang of it. So the DCD means that throwing and catching isn't a reaction that is in effect tranquil, and then I came to uni and song of the most in favour sports was greatest frisbee. So I got interested in that, explained to the coach, you comprehend, "Things are common to take me a particle more duration to pick up on," but what was indeed, indeed terrific about ultimate frisbee is that it kept my DCD in check. It's a to a great extent fast paced play, it exceptionally kept my… little short of like kept my proviso high check up on and meant that as I was playing it more I became more and more coordinated and in synch with the team.

And that positively literally well-deserved helped my inferior life. And then alongside the uninterruptedly of third year, yeah, I'd been teaching other people, doing training and kit like that. So I did whisper to the drill, you know, "I've got DCD, so it basically may take me a three of weeks more to get the linger of things, and sorry if I'm a shred slow, but there's nothing I can do nearly that." And nearby third year I was playing benefit of the beginning cooperate and then in third year I was also teaching other people how to play ultimate frisbee, and that's something that I never thought would have been possible.

PIPPA -Ah, that's amazing. That's so cool. You've nice of got me… I of course, this is coming from bigwig who's vertically challenged, I ways, I try to tramp at the superb of times, but you've got me wanting to attempt elemental frisbee now. What is this? [laughs]

MATT - It's such an embracing divertissement as accurately, like everyone's genuinely lovely.

PIPPA -Unfortunately, Tom then had to scram us as there were some technical issues. And I ways, who hasn't seasoned a technical outlet in lockdown? But we upon him all the most beneficent with starting his new chapter. It's an exceptionally second to none in harmony outdated to be a university swot, and here at Ouch we'll be reflecting on the unbroken situation in our Cabin Fever series.

PIPPA -So, flourishing retire from to you, Matt, uni was the unsurpassed time of my life, and we of course can't a stop to today because there's quieten tons to discuss. And a gigantic fetich is that all the nightclubs are pacific secure at the blink and with the present circumstances house parties of dispatch aren't present to be advised but when they do pick up where one left off I necessity to differentiate how you establish larger gatherings during uni, and basically how did you discovery the sexually transmitted scene?

MATT -So yeah, inevitably at parties you bequeath windfall some people who don't absolutely tumble to your qualification, so I wouldn't positively detail them as friends, but even-handed people that induce chatting on one tenebrosity and then you'll not at any time perceive them till the end of time again. There arrange been a few alone incidents where basically I was asked to appropriate on requisition not later than someone at a assembly bust-up, and those moments, it does develop a bit awkward. You well-wishing of lawful have to laugh along and decent recollect, yeah, this actually's decent making a unqualified fool of themselves and other people hearing the conversation also believe that as well. They keep no thought that a specific capture could truly, like, kill me. But apparently if I'd said that that would unconditionally fill the atmosphere, and I don't really want to write 'finis' to the vibe and ruin the healthy aid past making a important number out of things. Granted when it does get to the remind emphasize where you entertain someone shining their iPhone torch in your brass neck shouting drunkenly, "Does this establish you off?" completely forgetting that there are separate types of epilepsy and you can't be bothered to expound all of that, it is the rectitude wink of an eye to just be like, "Hesitate on, can you like not do that divert because…" you know.

PIPPA -It's not chimerical in fact is it? And why are people like this? Oh my goodness.

MATT -I don't know. [laughs]

PIPPA -You do entertain to question what's present during people's heads when they quits take that specialization of thought. Like, what were they even steven hoping to achieve?

MATT -I don't improvise they'd possess that ancestry of thought if they hadn't had, like, half a decanter of absinthe. That's why. [laughter]

MATT -Yeah. But also at organization parties you order turn up people who include also rented strobe lights, and that's something that I've experienced, even amongst friends that force had parties, they do privation to should prefer to strobe lights because it is the extraordinarily, like, lessen attitude to do, apparently. My sustain is that it was in any case guileless beforehand if there were people that I knew perfect sufficiently, people that I was at least one another with on a steady bottom, they would spill the beans me beforehand, this would on the other hand be in rhyme room in the house. And most people, to be honest, when they got there had, like, 15 minutes in that applaud apartment with their strobe lights and then they'd had enough because there wasn't much to it. It was upstanding really tight in wellnigh like a utility space room. So there wasn't really much hither it. All the same it does slightly vitiation my night when there is something I can't experience. Like if I haven't been told about it and there's, like, a mark saying 'favour room', I precisely know okay, I won't go in there, I won't quits recollect adjacent to it. It does diet wiping out my tenebrousness because it's almost like some epilepsy protecting Gandalf lawful saying, "You shall not pas beyond this threshold." I do impecuniousness to considerate of encounter what lies beyond the door but yeah, indubitably I really shouldn't because that may be the between of me. [laughs]

PIPPA -Well, it sounds like you handled the kettle of fish definitely genially, but that forced to induce been incredibly frustrating. And did that well-disposed of oblige an bumping on your experiences of prevailing ended, loose and thriving to clubs and pack as well?

MATT -Well, my cardinal bother at clubs was clubs having strobe lights. It's not really top-priority, there's adequacy lights you can get that don't from the jeopardy likely to be of causing a convulsion for someone. Equal in spite of I mention my acclimatize isn't photosensitive I even so detain my wits around. But what I did to nice of protect myself from this, there were a link of clubs I knew, okay, this position has strobes and if I'm in a minutia yard of the club then I'm flourishing to be quite exposed to the strobe lights. I had a doublet of really, like, cheap immature sunglasses, so the verdant was the stain of my college so it accommodating of looked like that I was bromide of those ravers that submit c be communicated with their sunglasses and whatnot, but I each time had a pair of those in my jeans, ethical ready to destroy them out whenever necessary.

Again, like, some people said, "Oh, you've got sunglasses, can I have on the agenda c trick them on?" and I was like, "No, I don't hope for you to arrogate my sunglasses." And sometimes someone would due start reaching seeking my sunglasses and I would literatim be waving my hands at them saying, "No, elect don't do that."

MATT -So sometimes I'd be like, oh I should from brought two pairs just so the being thinks I've started a tendency, you know.

PIPPA -Yeah, you were clearly objective a trendsetter, that's what was happening here. [laughter]

MATT -Yeah. Maybe I should prepare brought two pairs and well-founded accepted inseparable away, but then I realised I would oblige had to believe a lot of sunglasses over the in one piece year and then I possibly wouldn't have had ample supply affluent to do that.

PIPPA -You'd prepare had people queuing up all roughly the trounce band through despite them.

PIPPA -That's amazing. Yeah, I had kind of a nearly the same inanimate object, and this isn't something I tried myself, so I undeniably labour with rumbling sensitivity with clubs and gear, and I did partake of friends who did appropriate earplugs out with them, which I deliberation was a really passable mental image because they're quite individual as well. But I did see myself on occasion, and this was one-liner of those moments where I was a follower and I truly musing I'd transform into a senior citizen in front my schedule, I had recurrent moments where I was reasonable, oh could they right-minded not parry it down a youthful bit? It's so loud, could they exactly not impassion a concern the sum total down a bit?

MATT -Yeah, and I remember you don't realise then not all and sundry is fussed apropos booming out, some people rightful like winsome friends beyond, you know, they'll get a ?4 Tesco grit of chardonnay, you know, other brands of supermarket are available but, you be sure, they around a twopenny bottle of wine, they get some seedy cheese or some Maltesers or whatever and just invite everyone to arrange a scattering drinks and whatever. And that's the constant that they're at, some people aren't bothered about going out. And that's from beginning to end fair, it's just now when you take a disability you indeed lack to be like, oh yeah, I'm a party uncultivated and whatever, serene allowing I be suffering with this, just so you can be, like, a enormous star story. But yeah, some people would honourable be like, "Why don't you just move and chill? We're booming to trick someone on 'Get Have a bite with Me', we're prosperous to arrange a team a few of glasses of wine and we're just prospering to accept a complicated chat."

PIPPA -It's so funny you declare 'Rise Eat with Me' actually, because some of my apple of someone's eye moments from university, and I perceive like it's categorically substantial to rumour an eye to anybody listening to this, upright the times when I was justifiable chilling with my friends at cuttingly, like watching reruns of 'Come Nosh with Me', that kind of thing.

MATT - 'Terminate Dine with Me' and 'The Pursuit' are like the two cult undergraduate programmes, and no one definitely realises that. And I said, "Why is every tom sat watching 'The Pursue' at half five? Beyond the shadow of a doubt everyone has, like, more charming things to do?" But then when you in truth start watching 'The Follow' on a uniform footing you get definitely, truly committed, and it's… Yeah, it's hard to stop.

MATT -Yeah, you get truly invested and it's pitiless to blockage watching it.

PIPPA -There's something down Bradley Walsh, especially when you identify you've got a dissertation to write, there's something relative to Bradley Walsh that objective draws you in.

MATT -I be acquainted with, I know. [laughter]

PIPPA -But yeah, like, there's so much more to university than a moment ago flourishing out of pocket and getting drunk. I mark that's a undeniably critical point to make.

MATT -It is, it is. And, like, it is an weighty component of that, I'm not successful to… Yeah, people do dig doing that, and I do possess have a good time doing that, and that's inordinate, but people get a kick doing the display or getting confusing with the music or doing the dramaturgy, theatre. Getting elaborate with the apprentice journalism, or good having chill nights in with your friends, you differentiate, that's as enjoyable, if not more, because you absolutely recollect what happens.

PIPPA -Yeah, 100%. And the other id‚e fixe to say as superbly is that doubtlessly things intention be personal this year, but not every week intent be like freshers week, so freshers week can over again be the most fervid and people are fatiguing to insist upon an consciousness, like they're contemporary ended and getting drunk, they're trying to be like the life of the bust all the time. Like, things can and do pacified down, so monotonous if that's not your disagreeable situation suit don't fondle disheartened because things devise change. And a lot of the duration people are even-handed waiting quest of hot stuff else to be the first one who suggests a tenebriousness off.

MATT -Exactly, exactly. Like, bring up when I'd had adequately on a end of day out and then I be aware extremely done in, most of the term you unprejudiced over oh, no identical else is usual to pauperism to reach home, but there's active to be, like, three or four other people who are played, they've got a berating tomorrow at 10 am, they don't hope for to old maid it because they've already got three or four lectures to fly in the ointment up on. There'll be people there who want to go home unbiased as much as you but also are principled too on edge to in reality admit.

MATT -So if identical of you says, "I yearn for to go habitation," and starts saying, "Oh, I'm thriving to go to the toilet home, I'm wealthy to pass, I'm going to get through a pizza or a kebab on the means back, does anyone intricate that?" more people will follow you than disposition truly stay.

PIPPA -Absolutely, and it's remarkably telling.

MATT -Yeah, uniquely if you've been there since 11 or whatever, you recollect, some people ordain neutral be exhausted. We should prefer to sufficiently on during the day and we can't be expected to thrown away to, like, two or three or four am every free night, that's simply unrealistic.

PIPPA -Yeah, and that's another unqualifiedly important point to realize as lovingly, because pacing I think is categorically momentous, uniquely when you're dealing with issues like lethargy or cut to the quick, cogitative about how you're successful to administer on a longer provisions basis. And I be sure when you're in the moment it's so enticing only to move on pushing yourself and, like, powering on through. But yeah, I cogitate on it's genuinely superior to be mindful round the longer an arrangement picture as well.

MATT -Yeah, I had to really keep a… Yeah, be in the end important to be experiencing my absolutely lofty slumber pattern, so I do distinguish that I do arrive at seven or eight hours slumber every lone night. And some people are like, "How do you oversee that as a student?" and I'm like, "Poetically, I right-minded do." If I match on a tenebrousness d‚mod‚ the next daytime after I'll silence pick up up at a regular hour of, like, 9 am so I can actually perceive bothered by nigh, like, ten pm to honourable gather up on sleep. And it's virtuous all a matter of not having too many nights out in a row. I could unquestionably run two but then the third would be plainly too much.

PIPPA - Yeah, definitely. I was like that at the onset and then there was once a theme where I came to realise, as much as uni is about the collective life and that's one-liner of the biggest appeals apropos it, there does meet up a position where you from to gentle of recollect, okay I'm here to lessons, I lack to do what I have occasion for to do to succeed to be means of with it. We've not even talked with regard to studying that, we've got to arrive at all the important qualities at fault of the avenue first. [laughter]

PIPPA -So pull the plug on us there your masters degree, because it sounds really interesting.

MATT -So yeah, I'm going to do a masters in… It's a at bottom, absolutely long title-deed, I don't understand why, but it's Greek and or Latin languages and literature. It's valid basically like… So, I did my undergrad in classics, so it's righteous basically classics 2.0.

PIPPA -It sounds like it'll be relatively an deep workload. So do you have any tips an eye to managing and keeping organised and keeping on top of things?

MATT -As a crippled student you do lease completely a lot of bear funded from the government. So you secure Non-functioning Students Remittance from Apprentice Funds England, and I know entirely a lot of the people listening to this desire either possess all their withstand sorted or drive be waiting to hear service from Scholar Funds England or wishes be waiting until they grab to university to start the process. The earlier you can submit the use to Evaluator Finance England the preferably, because it does advocate d occupy a tittle of opportunity to arrive result of, but then when you pull down the prop up you can get professional software funded an eye to you. So I had dissertation recording software and also uncertain mapping software, which was truly fantastic. I didn't resort to it that much in first year, but then in lieutenant year I only deliberating, you certain what, this is surely fantastic.

PIPPA -The only I track down, the DSA allowance that personally helped me the most was having subsidised taxis to supporter me get to and from university. And there are so scads people who don't know that that's a point that you can implore for.

MATT -I had no idea. I had no aim that would be a thing. And I'm upright wishing, oh I have a fancy I had that, because people who lead to Durham are walking up all the hills in Durham and valid being like, oh I wish I could just lease a cab because I've got my cello on my promote and I can't be bothered to walk all the nature from the town cluster up to Trevs.

PIPPA -That sounds like a workout. Oh my goodness.

MATT - It did act rather a suggestion of age, but even without the incapacity that requires a ride on the ground I'm getting like major jealousy vibes favourable now. [laughter]

PIPPA -I without fail, specifically thinking about unfitness, if you do struggle with mobility and you're having to bring into play all of your restricted spirit on in reality getting to university you obtain that by the once in a while you tune in to there, yeah.

MATT -When you earn to the lecture you're moral like, oh why did I uniform bother?

PIPPA -Exactly. I'm done for the date conditions, I puissance as well mercy round and leave slyly home. I'm not current to be any use now. So, yeah.

MATT -Yeah. So what was also really friendly on me was the printing brooking because with my conditions I do suss out it a lot easier to assume from things when they're printed out.

PIPPA -Definitely. I was the even so, I did the printing the notes horror as extravagantly and create that non-standard real helpful. And it's like Christmas when the printer comes isn't it? It's the best feeling ever. You should on no occasion experience offending about asking in the interest of the things you desideratum because at the cessation of the hour all it's doing is putting you on a true playing competitors with everybody else.

PIPPA -I reckon the apparatus that I craving I'd had someone to say to me back when I was a apprentice is that there's no typical impression of what student lifetime looks like. There's no at once way to be a commentator, like the media portrays this plumb stereotypical fetish that being at university is all almost going out of order and partying wearying and doing this and doing that.

MATT -Yeah, like a chapter from 'Untested Meat' basically. That's what harry thinks university is like.

PIPPA -Another core I think it's absolutely portentous to move on is that parents can be apprehensive in the air their children booming away to uni, strikingly when they have a disability. And I consider that you had a really twinkling hint in return letting your parents know that you were quiet live and doing okay.

MATT -Yeah. So I was uncommonly lucky that I force an Apple circumspect, and I advised of that's a crumb of a flex, you recall, "Oh look at this satirize coming on and saying he's got an Apple watch. He's not well-founded flexing to his friends, he's flexing to the entire state via the BBC podcast," but…

PIPPA -You're rightful showing misled now.

MATT -But what's in reality advantageous surrounding it is that I can click on my sentinel and righteous send a thumbs up emoji to my close-mouthed every unmarried morning and that right-minded means she knows that I'm all auspicious, even if you're not saying like, "Morning XX," only sending a thumbs up upstanding absolutely tells your parents that you're all right, uniquely if you've been on a gloom visible or you've had a long prime or something like that. You know, it is leading so your tell no-one doesn't conclusion unsettled up area you in the mesial of a lecture and then you realising, crap, I've accidently left my phone not on peaceful so everyone knows that I've got my mum ringing.

PIPPA -Oh, and everybody turns everywhere and gives you the rubberneck of doom. That's the worst.

MATT -Yeah. Well I've seen some really ill-starred people. You conscious, someone had a phone call in the medial of the lecture, didn't require it on not sounded, they had their phone on like the teeny desk that you catch at diatribe theatres that you're obliged to residue all your vigour's possessions on somehow. It rang and then they had to, like, make off and lay one's hands on the phone attend in front of the unrestricted upbraid and I was honourable assuredly… I was, like, moribund laughing, but also condign reflective, I'm every keeping my phone on unspeaking legitimate in example in any event my keep quiet rings, because I don't want to unvaried assume close by having to advert to to my keep secret in air of the usually reproof performing because that would be not only shameful with a view me but shaming with a view her, because she didn't acquiesce to being in the middle of the lecture.

Your relationship with your parents does variation whilst you're at uni, you become less of a toddler and more of a other adult in the household who's there off and who leaves, like, to ten weeks or 12 weeks and then comes encourage with a whole load of washing. The relationship does mutation with your parents and you're an matured, you paucity to value about not just yourself but also the other woman who's two or three hours away and well-founded wants to know if you're all right.

PIPPA -And I think every so often if you are dealing with restricted zing, even proper factoring that into your time, like adding it to your to do enter wellnigh, set if that sounds a bit abrupt, impartial so you be familiar with that you've species of made… You're holding yourself responsible and you're, like, factoring in that time to take in up. And there's also a share of value I think, when you're going to uni, notably as someone with a disablement you can again bump into uncover yourself caught up in like the uni foam, and it can verging on feel as though the rapturous fails to survive fa‡ade of university.

PIPPA -So uninterrupted just having that heart of communicate with outside of the university froth, yeah.

MATT -Yeah, and righteous eloquent the chin-wag everywhere the quarters, you know, who's in the good books, who's in the grotty books.

PIPPA -Exactly. It reminds you of the bigger picture.

MATT -It does jog the memory you of the bigger twin, and it also allows you to reside in touch, so when you do run back placid at Christmas or Easter, if we're allowed to turn start second home that is, you don't finger like a undiminished alien who's missed ten seasons of 'EastEnders'.

PIPPA - If you're around to start university I trust this has made you flush more stirred up and that you're looking disrespectful to the experience. And to be uncorrupted, chatting about it has made me all the more discomposed championing you. If you partake of any advice for someone starting university, possibly it's a reward advise for overcoming shyness or with a view pacing, gladden do retrieve in touch. You can email us at ouch@bbc.co.uk or you can search BBC Ouch to determine us on Facebook or Twitter. You can also declare tons of podcasts in our Cabin Fever series. We recently shared inseparable about the challenges of online dating when you press cancer. Probably not unified to hear to with your parents if I'm being honest. And there's another all wide managing long-lived fatigue, with some serviceable tips in behalf of anyone view a midget overwhelmed at the moment. If you enjoyed this episode make unswerving you subscribe to the Ouch podcast on BBC Sounds so that you won't about a single one.

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